Monday, April 14, 2014

What camera do you use the most to drive a truck?


During development, we talk a lot about user experience. The perspective from which the player perceives the world we have built is of course a major part of it.

Some players may prefer pure simulation experience and only view the world from inside the truck cabin, other players may rely on the behind-camera. What about you?

164 comments:

  1. Cabin wiew is really much better to drive and gives feelings that am really behind a truck's driving wheel , tried al cams , for me it's the best way and comfortable way to play the game.

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    1. Cabin wiew + mouse steering = Endless play :)

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    2. I Agree - the cabin view provides by far the most immersive and realistic experience for me, and I also find it just seems more intuitive and enjoyable than any of the other views.

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    3. It is more realistic.

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    4. interior for most of driving,only use outside camera for parking and intersctions

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  2. I use outside camera only to enjoy the appearance of my truck when its red light on the crossroad :)

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  3. Some Cams like TV and Outside are funny and nice to take Screenshots, but for Driving, i always use the interior Cam

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    1. This. I drive from inside that cabin but enjoy going to the drive by cam for screen shots. I have cabin cam set to left stick click and drive by cam set to right stick click on the controller.

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    2. Ever heard of photomode? You don't need drive by anymore to take screenshots.

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  4. cabin camera and top camera (3) when delivering/parking the goods

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  5. It's hard to drive with rear-camera. It's joy for enjoy the truck when light is red

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  6. Only Interior! Only Hardcore! =))
    Parking with Interior view is awesome!
    And sometimes Cinematic on straight lines - it's beautiful!

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  7. I use interior camera when driving and when parking the trailer I stick my head out the window. I have tried exterior camera and has some advandatges like be able to see the world but I always find hard to control the truck and often will crash.

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  8. SCS, make PLEASE hands on a wheel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Actually, they can remove the wheel altogether because with a steering wheel controller there are two wheels. At least the option to remove it would be useful. On some trucks the wheel hides some of the indicators/gauges.

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    2. I totally agree, all major simulators have hands on a wheel, it feels more realistic because when you drive you don't actually see your own hands on the steering wheel.

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  9. Malókedy pri pozdĺžnom parkovaní medzi dva AI kamióny použijem za truckom. Občas som použil aj celkový pohľad (8), keď som chcel vidieť, ako ste mesto spracovali :D Ale inak mám pohľad z intérieru. Preto som aj písal, že V8 sa mi zdá tichšia ako obyčajna R-ka :)

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    1. translation : I rarely use camera behind the truck, when I park between two trucks. Sometimes I used universal view (8), when I wanted to see created city :D. But otherwise, i have a view from interior. Because of this, I wrote, that v8 seems to me more quieter than like ordinary R :)

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  10. Cabin view only. If i change view from cabin view to another, i do that just for fun not because driving :)

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  11. Only interior camera. Even if I must draw back with trailer.

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    1. I forgot to add that it's very nice, because you have add right mirror to the cabin. In GTS I had to set the view to the left mirror and the right was unavailable (maybe I haven't seen this parameter set). Now having 2 mirrors the driving is easy and nice.

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  12. on american truck simulator to hook up air lines to the trailers

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    1. +1

      Trailer should lock in by reversing into it (no need to press T).

      They should have a screen showing airlines on back of truck and front of trailer and you have to drag them with your mouse and put them in the right spot (red to red, blue to blue).

      ANd they should show animation of winding landing gear up, perhaps tap a certain button, faster you tap it, faster driver cranks the handle.

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  13. I use the internal camera mostly but it would be nice to be ably to adjust FOV , seat height and seat position forward or backward

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    1. I agree, it would add even more of that special feel!

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    2. i agreee with you

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    3. Let us adjust the camera controls in real-time, editing text-files, reloading game, seeing what it did, exiting game, editing text-files, reloading game, seeing what it did, exiting game..... kind've sucks just to correct driving position in a game where driving position is kind've important.

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    4. +1, Adjust the seat. I use the mouse to look around. Or it would be nice to have a dynamic interior view (looking more to left when turning left).

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  14. I say that scs should put more time in the interior than the exterior such as costumizing the interior. Because 95% of the people that play this game uses that veiw more.

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    1. It's a truck simulator not Trick My Truck. Interiors should be as close to how they come from factory as SCS can possibly make them. If you want to pimp interior out, you can earn to change textures, it's really not hard.

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  15. Although there are mods to change the fov it would be nice to have a fov setting within the game.

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  16. Interior cam of course. Add to change seat height and hands on steering wheel would be awesome

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  17. well... i use cab camera if i'm driving with my wheel, but i use the outside free camera when driving with wasd keys. :)

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  18. Definitely interior view for driving. However, the interior view in ETS2 is good already. I think the exterior view needs more work, more freedom. The view is too restricted right now, I don't feel I can zoom out enough, and I don't have the freedom of movement I want, primarely up and down. I also don't like the automatic zooming when moving the camera around the truck.

    Optimally, I'd like to see the exterior camera totally non restricted, like in Tricky Truck: http://trickytruck.com/ (free demo, so you can check it out). I get that this gives the player the possibility to see beyond the closed off streets and above the blocking walls and bushes, but honestly: It really doesn't matter. It will open for much better screenshots, without using the modded in free roam camera (which definitely opens for seing the flaws of the map world).

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    1. I agree with more freedom with exterior view (perhaps like a third person view walking around the truck, like the Munchen citybus simulator for example).
      Thanks

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  20. Yo USO LA CAMARA exterior Solo Para Disfrutar de la apariencia de mi camión

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  21. your games need an ADJUSTABLE INTERIOR CAMERA

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  22. I prefer the cab view cos it makes driving easier and fun but when i back the trailer up sometime i use the top down view but mostly use cab view :)

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  23. Always in the interior view, i like to drive and park without HUDs, i look at right mirror tuning the camera :)
    Driving with a steering wheel with like G27 is awesome!

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  24. I also prefer the cab view, especially when you play with a G25 or well any other steering wheel in combination with a headset or so .. you can almost imagine sitting there behind the wheel hauling cargo across Europe :) but I think they should increase interior options and lookaround to give a more 'being there feeling'
    Speaking about interior camera (not sure if this is a right moment to do but anywho..) try to fix the interior so lower cabs (height of the driver position) so that even from the inside you can see the difference.
    I found an image to show you what I mean because I'm not good in explaining it in words what I mean :) ..
    http://www.freegreatpicture.com/cat/photo-19006 you see how the red one is lower as the grey one? Make it look from the inside like this too, now every truc no matter what cab is the same height from the interior

    The exterior cams are pretty fun too, mostly to enjoy the nature you're gliding through or when you have to make a hard maneuver and you aren't sure about it.

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  25. Mouse scroll should zoom camera

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  26. i use interior camera...but sometime when i change to outside camera,it feel really good when hearing the noise from engine...the v8 rumble...i really really hope you can make windows down so i can hear the truck engine noise

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  27. Hi, 94,12 % use interior camera. Interior addons would suit ;)

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  28. Please make roof camera rotatable! I like to drive with internal camera but sometimes I would like to look around to nature with roof camera but I cant rotate it.

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  29. Scs have a video Traffic from Euro Truck Simulator 2 1.9.24 patch for the game. Some bugs vega New Video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEPdZjO1NE4&list=UUymqCGBX0BYyG_wpLz8latg

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  30. Please add availability to switch ON/OFF cabin lights & please allow old mods to work on future/current version of the game.... Great Good Game Thanks SCS!!!!!

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    1. Do you mean the dash lights? You can actually dim those and turn them off by pressing F4 and dragging the slider in the popup menu that appears. That menu is also how you enable any extra lights you put on your truck at the shop.

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  31. interior camera with 65 fov

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  32. While I will use other views

    EG: #5 for attaching/deattaching trailer
    #8 when sleeping

    #0 For checking out new paints I am working on

    When it comes to driving it HAS to be interior.

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  33. First, I used to play with Behind the Truck camera, but now I play with Interior one.

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  34. I only use cab view.

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  35. I only use the interior camera while driving, even when backing up and/or parking the trailer. I always keep the opposite-side mirror overlay on, though, looking back and forth all the time is super annoying.

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  36. I use the interior view but the problem is that I can't disable the mirrors on the interior view and therefore I can't achieve a good fps. This is starting to become a problem and I'm sure that it is for others as well because I can't drive properly with the exterior view as I need to see the steering wheel.

    I've contacted your support about this and they've been very helpful so far.

    Thanks,
    tacothegamer

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  37. Use mostly cabin view, but with the mod, since the default camera it too far ahead and you cannot see the left side mirror properly (When driving a left hand truck).

    External camera is used only to look at the scenery.

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  38. Interior camera is the best while driving. Maybe you should add tuning parts for interior, or paintable interior in the next patch or add-on :)

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  39. Most of time when i play , i use interior cam but outside camera when me and my truck are stopped at traffic lights so i can see around me and also when sometime when driving trough small roads to look some nice sceneries .

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  40. i like see outside camera to see how reckless our driving, hope there's camera from ai behind truck

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  41. Interior camera for everything, but I change to fixed exterior cam for a moment on some specific situations to see my truck come and go (mountain road). I also use the debug camera (free cam) at gas stations, or to check the pressure of my wheels. So I "walk" around my truck. Even climb stairs up to check everything is OK on the tanker semitrailers ;)

    As additional information: I have the FOV on all trucks changed from the default 77 to 44, as I use 3 screens and TrackIR, so I get no deformation. To see my steering wheel I have to look down, and the left mirror takes my 22" monitor's whole height (30cm?), which makes the driving feeling much more realistic than having a full dashboard, wheel and tiny mirrors in all the screen.

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  42. Mostly i drive from interior camera, but often also swich for little time to drive from behind, cinema or wheel camera. Sometimes it's not so wise, beacause it has risks.

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  43. I also use interior cam and ONLY that. It´s not much of a simulator if you can´t use the mirrors when connecting to your trailer. Now we only need that we can get outside the truck and load everything into the trailer in first person mode. Driving a liftfork for that would be cool!

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  44. Я использую только внутрению камеру здаю задним ходом только по зеркалам так прикольней и ближе к риальности.

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  45. Status from 14/04 @ 15:30 GMT:
    - Interior camera 94.13% (3,448 votes)
    - Behind the truck 2.38% (87 votes)
    - Roof camera 0.57% (21 votes)
    - Bumper camera 0.74% (27 votes)
    - More cameras: 2.18% (80 votes)

    ...now, I'm not an expert in statistics, but I have this strange feeling that interior camera could possibly win this poll ;)

    But seriously, come on SCS, what did you expect? ;) Of course we're sitting in the cabin and the only "outside" view we use is when we reverse and stick our heads out of the window.

    That said, I do hope that these results will finally motivate you to add the option to roll down the windows and let some outside sound in. You're doing such great job on the audio, but we can't really enjoy it in our cabins.

    Besides, did you ever hear the term "trucker arm"? It's when your left arm is your only body part that's tanned... if you hand it out the window. Please let us simulate open windows, I already have a simulation-arm-rest when playing ;)

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    1. Good one. Agree

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    2. And you have to put on sunscreen every 2 hours or you get a cancer fine.

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  46. should be given more importance to the cabin images

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  47. interior cam, why? -> it's the most realistic, i really love everything you do but maybe rework some "old" interiors and make the in sounds a bit louder just as a little wish... keep the good work up scs :)

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    1. What's your problem? Make volume up =)
      In euro trucks very solid sound isolation, not like american.

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  48. 99% off the time I use cabin view, for pure simulation feel.

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  49. It would be even nicer if you add official multi monitor support.
    For example i would like to have the normal inside view on my main monitor and the right part of the dash and right mirror on the second monitor...

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  50. We need see all interior, the back side...

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  51. Interior only , being a HGV driver in real life its the only way to play any simulation.. ok for screen shots its exterior but that's the only time :)

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  52. I always use the interior camera but it wold be interesting that the steering whell had any function for bring near or remove away (zoom camera) according to the preferences of each drivers.
    Thank you so much and sorry for my English

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  53. This poll is pointless! Over 90% for interior camera. Did you expect different results?

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    1. Your comment and your mouth are pointless

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    2. Considering the number of players that play this with automatic transmissions (higher than those in real life who actually choose to be steering wheel holders) and a keyboard or game controller rather than a steering wheel, it's not necessarily obvious that the majority will also be using interior camera.

      I'm surprised it's so high, considering they don't use the other simulation aspects as often.

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  54. I am wondering what could be the reason behind this poll. Are you looking forward to introduce some more camera angles, or are you trying to tune up the present ones.

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  55. simulator games scs can make is truck towing simulator & heavy rescue simulator ? if you like reply than please

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  56. ETS 2 for Android.

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    1. Stick your android in your...
      There are some poeple (not, me I am windows7 user) who want ets2 on mac and are tired of waiting and waiting.

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    2. iFanboy detected

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  57. it would be cool to add interior features or at least develop this part. I'm talking about clickable and workable switches (except the already existing ones), power windows and stuff. If anyone of the SCS Team will read this, please go to Youtube and take a look at OMSI Bus Simulator. You'll understand what I'm talking about, they have everything. Including dirt on the windows and sprinkles

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    1. +1000000000000

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    2. They've got "sprinkles"? Like on donuts? *stops playing ETS2*

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    3. you know what he's referring to, grow up.

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  58. PLEASE READ: http://forum.scssoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=135317

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    1. I read it for you friend! It's a website url.

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  59. En la cabina es mas shido :v

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  60. Original ETS without wheel and pedals was better with camera on behind. In ETS2 I use my wheel and cabin camera is my choice.

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  61. It's obvious that most people use interior camera.
    It would be nice if you'd make a few modifications to it. I have to use FOV mod to see the steering wheel properly. In trucks like MAN you can only see a little part of the wheel, while in Renault, the wheel is way to small, and fits in field of view entirely.

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  62. It should be nice if SCS put the two side cameras like in 18WoS - Extreme Trucker 2. That view is awesome for driving, without having the camera be directly behind the truck.

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    1. Hi GenesysX, when using the "behind the truck" view, just move your mouse a little and you will see the sides of your truck. Its almost the same view on Extreme Truckers.

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  63. Inside camera! With my G27 steering wheel in H-Shifter mode and TrackIR head tracking gear. It is very very realistic.
    Take a look at:
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_C51vfyInEIw/TIegxSlhohI/AAAAAAAAAB4/KXAY2D-GUjo/s1600/demo_setup.jpg
    and also:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJI4nIQI8zk

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  64. Interrior camera cos i'm playing with logitech dfgt

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  65. Please add physics to the camera (inertia, centrifugal force)

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  66. I use the internal camera because game with steering wheel, but always a straight quetem or less traffic I see the scenery, I love the graphics in the game and really admire the landscapes.

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  67. Only interior camera... and only :) i use mirrors :P

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  68. eu ja so do tipo motorista
    prefiro usar a do interior do caminhão
    da mais emção e ainda mais usando os retrovisores do proprio caminhao
    apenas pra estacionar que eu uso a camera de tras do caminão e mesmo assim é muito raro.

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  69. Interior camera all the way. With mirrors for backup. No cheating.

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    1. Well, it is not 'cheating' when you backup with '3', because there is a device which works with camara's facing down all around the truck, and shows this on a screen. Then the device makes a picture (not a real taken one, but really 'makes' a picture) of your truck, put this also on the screen, and voila, the view '3' is not even close to cheating!
      But I do agree with you!

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  70. I do not like the standard camera angle euro truck simulator
    I wish seating position and angle of the camera can set a menu or function independently of

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  71. I prefer inside the truck cabin, but I would like to see blinkers more strong when I am there.

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  72. It's hard to control the truck with a trailer using behind-camera. I only switch to it when I'm waiting for the green light, in a traffic jam or without trailer at low speed :-)

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  73. Interior camera for driving, but PLEASE keep some external views especially flycam ("0") as they are useful at times.

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  74. I would use bumper cam sometimes, but it is too loud to drive outside of the truck.

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  75. Interior camera only and I don't use F buttons for mirrors I only use mirrors of the truck. When I park the trailer I look through the window. Nice poll SCS i like it. bolus(World of Trucks)

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  76. I use interior cuz behind the truck is not good positioned and i cant get good feeling what is front doing so then i go to sides and then you go and try to turn good in corners at full speed

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  77. please insert the physics2trackIR sdk-plugin into ETS2:
    nice driver's seatmovement
    auto backwardsview cam on reversegear
    auto turn cam on steering

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    1. yes!!! please make automathic to look around when you are going to pass an intersection... yesyes yes automatic turning camera!!! perfect

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  78. Inside its more real .
    I know below istn't topic but I need to know
    I would like to know if you developp an AI Truck more real ?
    Uptade 1.9 the truck on hight way speed AI truck its very low 65 km !!
    Maybe someone has an mod for get an realistic speed of trafic truck ?

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  79. Yeah it would if AI trucks drive faster than allowed to look like realistic , in earth not every truck drivers ride their vehicles at allowed speed in high ways and also you should optimize even more AI , cause cars controlled by AI most of the time crashed on rear of my truck instead of overtaking me doing damage on my goods.

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  80. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSE3GIEN2P4

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  81. I didn't expect that there is somebody playing other the inside the cabin view. Yes, I admit, looking into the side mirrors without turning on the software ones, can be tricky as there is not much to see when backing. Still, it provides the best possible experience.

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    1. However, I forgot to add, that because of this style of driving, it would be nice to have the option to get out of the cabin and look around. Like what you normally do. The exterior camera just don't do it.

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  82. Hi scs.İm playing beta versions and ı noticed that fuel similatoin fault.Oonce ı started engine average fueling is very high.(Example 150,160...)I said this because i drive intrerior camera.

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  83. i use interior cam because of the realism and the feeling :)

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  84. Interior Camera is the best, because it camera provides realism.
    Sorry for my language.

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  85. When will is new truck Daf XF Euro 6?

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    1. In about 3 years, when DAF introduces the XF Euro7

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  86. Interior Camera for sure and then chasing camera to get a view of the scenery.

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  87. Câmera do interior e bem melhor, agora se altura da camera fosse mais alta em relação ao chão seria melhor ainda SCS!

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  88. For driving - inside camera.
    For scenery viewing or truck overlook - outside camera.
    That's what i go for atleast...

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  89. Definitely interior camera for me! But overhead view can sometimes be useful at junctions.....

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  90. A scs poderia como sugestão aumentar a visão interna para que pudéssemos ver o retrovisor esquerdo sem usar o mouse. Assim quando houvesse chuva teríamos a realidade da visão de um caminhoneiro.

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    1. sem distorcer a imagem só se usar mais de 1 monitor caso contrario seria preciso deixar a frente distante e os lados próximos

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  91. I use the Interior Camera when driving. After all, you don't drive a vehicle from the outside in real life. ;)
    When I'm backing up to pick up, or drop off, a trailer, I use the Lean Out Camera.
    I only use the Chasing Camera if I can't see the traffic lights because I have overshot them, or for taking pictures of the truck and scenery in Photo Mode.

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  92. А когда сделают новый Daf XF Euro 6

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  93. wow, im totally surprised by how many people use the in cab view compared to outside. lol. being an ex rigid truck driver myself I defintly love pimping out my truck and will spend 95% of my playing time on the exterior view number 2. idk if its because I use the keyboard to drive but I nearly have no feel for over or under steer in cab view, therefor I find it much more natural to drive from behind my truck. also I love hearing an open pipe man or daf cruising at 130 pretending its mine and im charging down the hiway just like the good ol days irl hehehe.

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  94. um btw just to add after reading some comments, its not hard to drive from external view when u drive like a truck driver... mayby start looking down the road further than 50mtrs people duh.... mayby u can react and drive without using the internal cam but whatever. just my preference.

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    1. when u drive like a truck drive you use interior view.. duh.

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  95. I use 3 screens so definitely the interior camera but i do use mouse to span the view so he looks out window when reversing.

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  96. I mainly use the interior camera but the behind truck camera is good when turning at junctions

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  97. I only use the interior cam but when i'm reversing i use the behind the truck cam :)

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  98. I use interior view only & put my head out to reverse. Sometimes I will use the F2 mirrors for reversing. But I never leave my truck lol

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  99. when u drive thousands of kms as a real truck driver over past yrs its defintly fun to see truck your driving , plus I can remember pulling into country towns after many boring hrs of continuous driving through nothingness. something as simple as seeing the reflection of my truck in a store window was sweet.

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  101. Pease make smoke from exhaust it will be more realistic

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  102. instant replay like scania truck simulator for ets2 also with different camer view

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  103. Now this why SCS rocks! Improving and extending the game a year and a half after release!

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  104. Interior cam ofcourse, because that's the way it's supposed to be.
    Heck.... even you're not sitting on the roof or anything of your car in real life right?
    So when using a sim, then it's more than logical to use the interior cam.

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  105. Mostly use interior cams for realistic views although i do find the main interior view a bit restricting as you cant see as much as you would if you were really in the truck (only half the windscreen) i guess thats the limits of a game but is there any way you could perhaps be able to assign different camera views yourself like you can assign different uses for keys or buttons ?

    As mentioned above an instant reply would be good too if possible?

    keep up the great work !

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  106. un po di movimento della testa sembra più realistico

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  107. Interier view is best!! But SCS please make a hand shown on wheel..

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  108. Please install the video recordfunction from scania driving Simulator. ..

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  109. I use the Logitech Driving Force GT, that's when the Interior Camera is the best way to play it!

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  110. Please instal open and close windows in trucks.
    Open exterior sound
    close interior sound
    i know my english is soo good ;)

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  111. scs please add fog lights for all trucks

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  112. if some one like me who has my own scania topline 730 and is very very HAPPY with my new truck & also who is new to this game . I drove around for a bit and it got me thinking . that I want a scania T.CAB . . so I am asking how do I go about getting this mod . and who know the best site in England to get it . also one that is safe to use as well . any info ??????? and can it cost me to get these mod thing ????????????? as at the end of the day I am a trucker NOT someone who sit on a LAPTOP all day LOL thanks . SLICK ..

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    1. gostaria de saber se esse mod ja esta disponivel ou não abraços

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  113. eu atualmente só uso a camera interior e a externa somente para estacionar

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