Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Non-Steam version of ETS2 stays around

We are delighted to see your feedback for ongoing open beta of ETS2 update 1.17 on our forums. Several issues we had not been aware of were already spotted thanks to you. With Scandinavia DLC release, everyone will benefit from this community cooperation on polishing the graphics engine upgrade.

Today we would like to talk about the future of non-Steam edition of Euro Truck Simulator 2.

Our stats suggest that over 80% of copies purchased in retail were registered on Steam. Majority of active players appreciate the simple automatic updates as compared to clumsy download mirror hunt, slow patch downloads and installation, the hassle-free migration to a new computer without having to find the misplaced activation keys, and of course the availability of additional DLC bonus packages. Seeing this, it's tempting to just concentrate on our core skill of developing and evolving the game further rather than expanding our legacy key authentication system to handle more DLCs, and to just stick with Steam service for future updates and releases.

But there is still also a considerable number of hardcore ETS2 fans who swear that they will never use Steam or Origin or any comparable system. They have already bought into ETS2 and we do not want to punish them by refusing them access to critical ETS2 updates and additions. We therefore feel that we have the obligation to sustain the availability of non-Steam edition of ETS2 and the big map add-ons, and to provide regular game updates outside of Steam.

We do not guarantee that this support will last indefinitely. We plan to keep adding cool features into the game relying on Steam infrastructure and therefore be Steam-exclusive. As a result we expect the numbers of actively played non-Steam copies of the game used in the wild to dwindle further, eventually freeing us from the need to provide two alternate game update methods. But for the time being and foreseeable future, we are not going 100% Steam exclusive with Euro Truck Simulator 2 ecosystem.

In fact, we did invest considerable development capacity to come up with a new feature: the Updater.



Built on top of torrent protocol, this new utility will give you a chance to update the game without having to go to any download sites. Much like comparable proprietary game update systems (Battle.net, League of Legends...), using torrent protocol means that the updater will piggy-back on additional upload capacity of people downloading the update to serve chunks of data to other people also grabbing the update at the same time. We won't have to serve tera-bytes of data each day any more just providing game update downloads (and there was never enough bandwidth honestly), you won't need to worry about clicking a wrong link on a 3rd party mirror site.

Still, the writing is on the wall, and it's only a question of time until we "sun set" the legacy key authentication system.

Euro Truck Simulator 2 - Scandinavia expansion box art

It's not a coincidence that ALL boxed copies of ETS2: Scandinavia map add-on sold in retail stores by our retail publishing partners and all copies sold on various 3rd party digital download sites will be Steam-only. Our retail publishing partners opted to bundle Scandinavia expansion with various DLC packages as extra goodies. Due to our limited infrastructure, we are using Steam for all of our non-map DLCs. So retail boxes of the add-on by necessity are now packing Steam-only game installers and keys.

The non-Steam edition of the Euro Truck Simulator 2 and both map expansions will continue to exist, they will be available for purchase exclusively from the official game website at http://www.eurotrucksimulator2.com.

156 comments:

  1. Since the beginning of all this is going. Steam works well with ETS2.

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    1. Is it possible to go on steam even when i baught the dvd?

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    2. Zeeuwse Trucker - The key will work on Steam

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    3. okay..i,m on steam, yesterday works all fine only the game is darker then normal during the day. Today i hate steam...the game crash all the time.

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    4. If they remove the non steam support they don't have my nod of thanks. I prefer to have a hard copy of the game or any game.

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  2. Quando vocês irão falar sobre o American Truck Simulator?

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  3. Deberían seguir haciendo DLCS y Actualizaciones tanto a los que juegan con Steam como a los que no juegan como Steam que es mi caso

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  4. coloquem os caminhões do jogo para fazerem entregas

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  5. I don't give a fuck about retail. Steam 4 ever.

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  6. I don't know why some people hate Steam so much...

    - Game key's management: Steam: single registration - Retail: registration at every PC change/format
    - Achievements: Steam: YES - Retail: NO
    - Updates: Steam: AUTOMATIC - Retail: websites, slow download speed.
    - DLCs: Steam: fast buy and DL - Retail: slow buy and DL
    - Support: Steam: community hub - Retail: web forums (good luck)
    - SCS work: Steam: fast and simple - Retail: only problems, slow game development
    Plus, on Steam, SCS can do beta testing with the help of ETS 2 players.

    It's clear: ETS 2 wouldn't be the same without Steam.

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    1. I think Steam is great from a devs point of view, but it's a compromise for players - it does offer some benefits, but also a lot of undesirable features and some bloat. It's perfectly reasonable that not everyone wants it.

      To address your points in particular:
      Game key management: yeah, Steam's easier, but it comes at the expense of having to put up with some marketing, a client which doesn't necessarily benefit the player, and some privacy issues.

      Achievements - not everyone cares about achievements. I feel that they suit some games and not others - ETS2 would be better without them. Of course, nobody's forcing anyone to care about them, but it's not necessarily a benefit to everyone.

      Updates: This will depend from person to person - for me personally, yeah, Steam's great and quick at keeping things updated. However, updates are not always a good thing - there are many situations where players would rather play an older version of a game, and Steam's system sometimes makes that difficult.

      DLCs: Again, marketing. Great for SCS, good for some players, bad for others.

      Support: I'm not familiar with the web forums, but if the community hub is being managed better, it's because more resources have been put into managing it.

      Unfortunately compromises do have to be made and accepted, but - even though I'm a heavy Steam user myself - I'll never understand why people sing Steam's praises so much.

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    3. Achievements - How game can become better with out them? With them you have some additional goals.

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  7. I`ll stick with playing the game NON STEAM until you go STEAM only, then I`ll stop playing the game. Half the time I can`t connect to it.

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    1. Note that they said this was 80% of their retail sales that registered with Steam. That doesn't include their Steam sales, which probably accounts for like 50%+ of their total sales.

      You are in the extreme minority.

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    2. I'm sure you will not be missed.

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    3. I use Steam everyday and never had any problem with it. If you have difficulty connecting, it could be your firewall config. Steam has an excellent support article about this. But because you aren't bothered anyway, I'm not even bothered taking the time to find it.

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  8. Steam functiona perfecto ok ...cuando mapa sur de Francia, España y Portugal? ??

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  9. I don't use Steam - for me it is very uncomfortable.
    I never bought steam games, and use it only because COD MW2&3 requests steam connection.
    I don't need automatic update because after every update you need to wait for compatiability of mods... It's better for me to wait when all installed mods will update.
    Achievements? I don't need them too, I don't want to make a competition.
    And maybe because of difficult situation in the world steam in Russia can be closed...

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    1. А зачем тебе моды? Я с самого начала без них прекрасно катаюсь. Правда, когда застрял на 99,99% пришлось ставить мод на засвет карты. И ещё, при чём тут политика и Стим?!

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  10. The sooner you go steam-only, the better

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  11. what about those who do not always have access to the Internet they can not play the game in the future so; (

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    1. I'm sure you can find an internet cafe, somewhere, once every few months when a new big update is out.

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    2. Yeah, Steam can be accessed offline. You'll only need Internet to download updates

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    3. we will not see this game on dvd?

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  12. I don't know any other non-Steam publishing company that makes such a drama out of alternate paths of publishing as SCS. Not a single one. Rest assured that SCS was the last company i helped greenlight something on steam.
    I also prefer GOG as publisher for ethical and fairness reasons. Forget Steam!

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  14. I think that having ETS 2 NON Steam is good because your Steam account can be stolen and you are basically f*****. That is an advantage of NON Steam game. I personally don´t care about Achievements, and slow patch install is not problem for me. I am happy with World of Trucks and I don´t need anything else.

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    1. The same can be said about online bank accounts. You better not have it, because someone could steal your password to us, and of course money.

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    2. The same can be said about your computer and retail box with activation code. As long as you protect your account by not using a password such as "lolcat123", you're pretty much safe.

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    3. Damn, Witchunter.. you guessed my password. I suppose I better go change it quick before they steal my ETS2 serial number..

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    4. Though on the other hand were your game disk or computer stolen or lost then with Steam you could re-download your games (some with your save data too). So it's swings and roundabouts really. I've lost loads of PC game discs while moving house, etc, but with Steam I can get what I've bought anywhere.

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  15. Great game i purchased it on steam easy to update easy to purchase dlc no problems what so ever

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  16. Should continue to make DLCS and updates both playing with Steam and those who do not play like Steam that is my case

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  17. The dlc Scandinavia will be available to non steam players?

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    1. It says there, in bright orange
      "The non-Steam edition of the Euro Truck Simulator 2 and both map expansions will continue to exist, they will be available for purchase exclusively from the official game website at http://www.eurotrucksimulator2.com."

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  18. Let's face it DRM is just a waste of time. How many time have we seen games get cracked just a few days after release. People who don't pay won't pay no matter if you have a DRM system or not. So why waste the money on crap then you can invest it in making a game people WANTS to pay for.

    Anyhow you guys makes a great work. Looking forward to the DLC will be amazing I'm sure.

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  19. I do hope that future expansions and game updates will be available as stand alone packs. I can see the advantage of steam games, with everything at a few mouse clicks and you have it on your PC the game or update you were wainting for, but as for me, an old school gamer, I will always love to buy a retail boxed game or add-on and just add it to my collection of games and any time just take the disc and reinstall whatever I might like.
    And maybe with the update system described in this article, it might me a good idea for those like me.
    About Scandinavia DLC price...well on excalibur publishing website the price is set to be £14.99. And this is for both boxed version or digital downloadable version.

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  20. **** you google bunch of tossers. I typed a meaningful comment here, but then to post it I have to log on, and the stupid piece of **** has lost it. heyho.

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  21. Sadly part of the player base still thinks, that Steam would steal their soul.

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  22. SOS!!! SCS RENAULT 6X4 NOT DIRECTION.

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  23. SOS!!! SCS BUG RENAULT PREMIUM 6X4 NOT

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  24. gr8 job with the 1.17 patch. thx SCS

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  25. SOS!!! SCS RENAULT PREEMIUM EIXO 6X4 BUG

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  26. SOS!!! SCS RENAULT PREEMIUM EIXO 6X4 BUG

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  27. SOS!!! SCS BUG RENAULT PREMIUM 6X4 NOT

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  28. SOS!!! SCS RENAULT 6X4 NOT DIRECTION.

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  29. It has still laggs in game .... I have good graphic card, but game isnt so stable like it must be .... and it lags ,on some places more on some less ... but is better then before !

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  30. You will make a mistake if you make steam only games many people do not like steam and they will pirate your game. You should make both Digital And Retail CD this way people can have a choice.
    Problem with steam is they can close your account (or restrict some countries) and you will lose all money and games. You do not own your games, GOG drm free is much better at least they offer a simple installer that you can save and backup and no need of always online drm and spy programs.
    Steam is like a dictator takes away buyers freedom it have some good feature and some bad too.
    By the way the new ETS2 DLC box art is much better.

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    1. Fully agree about everything, especially the GOG part. I preferably buy games nowadays only from GOG.

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    2. All you are doing now days is renting your game. Steam owns your game you don't. If steam should ever go away so does your game. Do you want to spend your money on a game you don't own? or have a dvd that will last forever.

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  31. If I have the non-Steam version, is there a way to transfer it to Steam if support ever ceases or dwindles?

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    1. Yes, serial key from your retail version keys are compatible with Steam = you can register your already purchased game on your Steam account. This way you will also get access to other DLCs that are available only through Steam.

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  32. My most important question: I'm using the non-Steam edition of the game. If the game moves to Steam, will I be able to move my progress there? I don't want to lose it, because I've already discovered about 85-86% of Original + Going East.

    Thank you!

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    1. i have 2 gtx 780s sli and i only get 30fps playing ets 2, i play GTA5 and get 90fps, i don't understand lol

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    2. you can just move your savegame (copy paste), i already moved to steam after using the retail edition and it worked like a charm

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    3. Because all instances of the game - be it Steam or not - are using the same folder for player profiles and saves, you won't lose anything (unless you delete your profile or saves folder).

      If you want to move to Steam, I would recommend you make a backup (just to be sure) of the folder named "Euro Truck Simulator 2" that is placed in your DOCUMENTS folder (that is not the folder with the game in it, but profiles and saves etc.) and then register and install ETS2 through Steam. You don't even have to delete the non-steam version.

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    4. @Marcusss: Thanks for the info, it is the very answer I was looking for. I have Steam but as I don't "Have" to run my games through it I don't use it much, but at least it works well unlike that pile of crap "EA" call "Origin". I bought my ETS2 GOLD as a digital download from the SCS website, I added it to my game library but still no joy so do I install it in my Steam file ?

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    6. No. If you add non-steam game to your steam library, you are just adding it to the list of games but not adding it to games asociated with your steam account. What you have to do to actually add the game to your account is to click "Games" on the top menu of Steam window and click "activate product on Steam". There you can write the serial key(s) you have from your digital download and register the game to your account. Then you can download and install the game using steam as with any other game you bought on steam.

      If you have two keys = for ETS2 and for Going East expansion respectively = be sure to first register ETS2 and then Going East.

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    7. Have a thousand thank's from me....
      You are indeed a top man :-)

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  34. Is the add on going to be on steam aswell on other retailers websites?

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    1. All DLC's that are coming, are going to be on steam; So to answer your question: Yes, the add-on is going to be on steam too.

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  35. hi thre if you own the game already can it be added to steam? thanks

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    1. Yes, if you own a game from retail or ets2 website, you should be able to register your serial key on Steam.

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    2. Marcusss is absolutely correct because I've just done it myself and it was a piece of cake. However I still don't have the Beta to test as it needs a password apparently and I've been unable to find it, I was under the impression that having a genuine version of the game was authentification enough ? maybe not eh!

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    3. you do not need password, goto properties-->betas-->select public beta 1.17

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  36. Na minha opinião ta faltando um botão que você liga e desliga o rádio (mas um botão apenas) e o GPS com voz.

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  38. I found interesting information. Scandinavia DLC can be purchased in-a-Box (on the website of polish distributor), but this addition works only on Steam. Lol, just buy a box with code? https://cdp.pl/euro-truck-simulator-2-skandynawia-pud-pc.html I see that you are going strongly into Steam. The rest undecided players will have to choose whether to continue to use the version of the game box or Steam. I bet that the game box version will not be cheap.

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  39. Hi everyone.
    after installed Beta version My Renault Magnum Have no rear license plate. (maybe i lost it on the road ) or that also happens to you? ( i never installed mods, everything is 100% genuine) and i didn´t check if the same happens on other trucks yet.

    SCS, please check the signals on highways, so many, many junctions showing us 2 lanes to go straight and when we get there there is only one lane to go causing accidents... this is a terrible error and this you can fix it ( dedicate someone to do this job)

    Thank you and hope you release STEAM version before day 7. In this same day Project Cars will be on shelves...

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  41. I must admit that I wasn't a big suporter of Steam but now I've gotten used to it. MidniteTrain.

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  42. Hello SCS Software.

    By the ETS 2 game is doing great work. So my opinion the game is missing a lot of things. Examples: Animations, Resources, DLCS, News, Moto graphic, challenges and difficulties, Updates, Traffic Al, Driving Laws.

    ('How will ETS2 in the future') .......

    Greeting Brazil.

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  43. Para min ta faltando a carga bitrem no ets 2 tbm.

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  44. See there? I told you guys that SCS was not going to be stupid and drop 20% of their paying customers.

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  45. I am reading all your comments and I see for one more time the Steam vs Non- Steam arguments which is just a waste of time.

    I cannot understand why every time you are acting like that. If you afraid if Steam will go out of business and you will loose your game, well, do this :

    Buy the game and it's expansion maps the Go East and Scandinavia directly from SCS website and save them on an external hard drive. Then, activate your keys on Steam. If Steam goes out of business, you will loose only the paint jobs you'll might buy.

    I was against Steam also, but when I activate the keys on Steam and also be able to play the game either from a Windows computer or a Linux computer, everything was ok.

    You concern about your privacy but on the same time you have no problem to use Google's products !!!! .

    You concern about piracy and you cannot understand that only if you play ETS2 on Steam you will fight the piracy.

    You concern if your Steam account will get hacked but on same time you lock your house door, you lock your car, you take your safety measures. Why can't you take your safety measures with your Steam account also?

    Once again : Buy ETS2 + Go East + Scandinavia directly from SCS and save it on an external hard drive and then activate the game on Steam and start playing and stop mumbling.

    As I said I was against Steam because we are humans and we are always fear the changes, we don't want to try something new. Once we try those new things, then we don't look behind again.

    Last but no least, none can convenience me that the people who are against Steam activation of ETS2 are having a genuine key, they are using a crack version and they worry if ETS2 be on Steam that they will have to put their hands into their pockets and buy the game.

    I got sick to see every time the same argument; Steam vs No Steam. You act like you live on caves and you have no internet connection so you wont be able to log into Steam.

    If I was the owner of SCS, I would announce that from now on everyone can buy the game directly from SCS website but he/she can play it only via Steam.

    Every time you start crying like children that you don't want ETS2 on Steam but on the same time you have no problem buy and play GTA V on Steam, buy and play PES on Steam, buy and play few more games on Steam.

    Enough is enough and either you accept the new policies ; activate the game on Steam and play it thru there, or you don't accept the new policies and you throw the game away.

    Stop acting like children.

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    1. I got into ETS2 via a cracked version because games are too expensive to just buy them, I prefer to "try before I buy" and it also avoids wasting time and money.
      ETS2 is a monster game with almost endless upgrade possibilities, it has a phenomenal mod community that has "SCS's" approval and it gives hours of fun for people of all ages because it's such a brilliant game.
      I agree with downloading direct from the SCS site, it's what I did and it's stored on a separate drive just in case I might need to re-install at any time and personally I think we get one hell of a game for very little outlay on our part (Cheap) and I shall gladly pay for the upcoming DLC

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    2. One thing is for sure, it certainly stops piracy. If someone decides to purchase a-Box directly from SCS and the key suddenly appears on the network, they will know whom to prosecute for it, because they will have the exact figures. Those who are waiting for pirate key to SCANDINAVIA DLC, not live to see it soon. Brilliant move SCS.

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    3. Apple Apple (or whatever):

      "You concern about your privacy but on the same time you have no problem to use Google's products !!!! ."

      If you use Google products with real information, you're an idiot!!

      "You concern if your Steam account will get hacked but on same time you lock your house door, you lock your car, you take your safety measures. Why can't you take your safety measures with your Steam account also?"

      You could have the longest, most secure password ever invented, but if Steam gets hacked, your password is known. If I put the most secure locks on my door, nobody gets in... see the difference?

      I think with all your petty whining and tantrum throwing, you are misguided about who the children are. Nobody cares why you like Steam, because you are not buying our games.

      And if it does go Steam only, then I'll stop paying and playing. If I buy a game, then I want more than worthless hard drive filler. If I get fed up with the game, I want to sell it, as I am legally entitled to do so. If developers want to make my game worthless, then why should I give them money in exchange?

      There's one very important factor to remember here, developers NEED customers, customer don't NEED developers... it's just a game. So I suggest you get back under your Steam Defence League blanket, and keep your unwanted whining to yourself. Because those of us who value physical products, don't care about digital exploitation and privacy invasion... and we're sick of Steam-tards telling us how we should play OUR games.

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    4. You are right: "developers NEED customers, customer don't NEED developers..." but unfortunately look at the numbers: "Our stats suggest that over 80% of copies purchased in retail were registered on Steam." I bet that in this 20% a lot of people don't know that they can simply add the key to the Steam - so now they have a chance to do that. Fortunately for you, can buy BOX version directly from SCS site: http://www.eurotrucksimulator2.com so you don't need to use Steam at all.

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    7. @ YouTougle :

      First of all, I am not a "Steam-tard" , second I am not telling you how to play YOUR game. You and some others with the same IQ, are trying to tell the rests, how to play their games :

      " oh no, I don't want Steam, I want the physical disk, I want to be able to touch it and show it with pride to my friends. I want to place those disk next to my collection and brag about it"

      I will tell you something, get a life.

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    8. Apoel Apoel wrote: "If I was the owner of SCS, I would announce that from now on everyone can buy the game directly from SCS website but he/she can play it only via Steam."

      It's clear that you have either not read or have not been paying attention to what SCS has been saying about that all along. The issue is not how people play ETS2, it's how they buy it and how they update it. They have repeatedly said since last May that they do not have the resources to continue to offer the downloads from their own servers. That is one of the key reasons why they wanted to do business with Steam in the first place. So they have been saying for almost a year that they can't offer the downloads from their servers anymore, along with all of their retail partners and other download sources such as gamershell.com, etc. And now you think they should do it exclusively, with no more DVD's from Amazon or game stores or other download sites? You didn't even read what this blog post was about, did you? You really need to do some reading before you post on this topic again...

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  46. hi guys im new here so bare with me im having problems updating the steam version of the game i update it to 1.17 publick and now it wants to update again to 1.17 public is this normal or not

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  47. OK so can I get my product key authenticated on Steam to continue getting updates - I'm not fussed using steam (have ES3 & 4 thanks to Steam sale) but I'm not buying the same game again!!!

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    1. Ignore thatI pecked the cd key into steam and voila NO MORE DISKS

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  49. I'm the one of those 20% for one simple reason - I don't play any other games in the last several years. So, why I should migrate onto Steam version and install another one program on my PC? I hope I will be able to buy Scandinavia DLC for the non-Steam version game, so we will all be happy... SCS with my money, me with this great expansion. ;-)

    Yes, I can move on Steam at any time, but I prefer to stay away as long, as possible.

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  50. What funny and retard people. They want the physical disk so they can SELL it later ,lol.

    SCS should move into digital downloads and ETS2 to be played via Steam and only.

    They want to be able to resell ETS2 ,lol . Yeah OK, you payed 40 Euros and you want to resell it ,how much you think you will get? no even 2 Euros. None will buy a game with a used key, get a life and STOP forcing SCS to spend more money to satisfy your childish demands.

    SCS should focus on the game and ignore the retards.

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    1. Do you always post about things before you know the whole story? It seems that you do. You are making a fool of yourself!

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  52. I noticed something just now, and realised what the next DLC will be. I think everyone noticed already, that the Norwegian-Swedish border is already shown, preparing for the Scandinavia add-on. Howewer, I noticed one more border, which is the Spanish-Portuguese border. Because of this, I think the next add-on will be France, Spain and Portugal.
    P. S. If I'm correct, I'd be happy if you would finish Hungary, like you did with Austria (with an update). But I'd also buy the France, Spain, Portugal DLC, as I did with Going East, and as I'm going to buy Scandinavia.

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    1. +1 for France, Spain, Portugal. Italy and Hungary are also started and unfinished. (And Irland has a border too.) I wish they could cover all of these in next 2 DLCs.

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    2. Yeah, they should be able to make the next expansion Iberia. I would think they'd use similar assets to those in American Truck Simulator, since the textures and vegetation are more or less the same for Spain and Portugal. I hope they are aiming for this in the future. Also, maybe complete more of Italy.

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  53. dear scs i now you're trying to make the game better but this beta 1.17x is the best no lagging but now this update 1.17.26 is lagging

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  54. Good day! Please add to the game Euro Truck Simulator 2 , more accessories for tuning truck: light bar, bull bar, lower grille guard. And more lights and lamps.

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    1. I agree, truck customization should be expanded. I'd like to see attachment points for LED's on the front grills of every truck, attachment points for different signs (TIR, ADR, L, G etc.), And most importantly; the possibility to attach airhorns directly to the roof of thr cabin, like IRL. Horns attached to roof bars just look stupid.

      Offcourse there are already a lot of tuning mods that give these options, but from my experience most of these mods are either unstable (making the game crash) or outdated (not working with latest versions of ETS2).

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  55. Well, as I've already done for the base game and the "going east" expansion, I will buy this new expansion.
    But after a minute I will download the pirated version.
    I will pay for your job, especially if as it seems you've done a very well one.
    But in exchange I deserve your respect.
    I want to install and reinstall the game I bought whenever I want.
    I want to play offline.
    I don't want the useless steam overhead.
    I repeat: I will pay for your work, but I will never ever permit you to steal my freedom.

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    1. what the fuck are you talkin' 'bout?! I quote "I want to install and reinstall the game I bought whenever I want.
      I want to play offline." First of all you can remove and install the game as many times as you want. For second, you can play ETS2 offline whenever you want. Once again, what the fuck are you talkin' about?!

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    2. Well, I'll try to explain in simpler words, so that even you can understand.
      If I have in my hands a piece of iron I can do with it whatever I want.
      If I have a "code", what can I do depends on the wishes of someone else.
      It's clearer now?

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    3. AFAIK that's not even illegal. Technically it's only a pirated version if you use a crack to play it. If you activate it using a serial that you bought fair and square there's nothing wrong with that.

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    4. @ Gozol Merdoid

      Yeah, OK. If you have in your hands a piece of iron you can do what you want = make 10-20 copies and sell them to your friends

      If you have a "code" what you can do depends on wishes of someone else = Yeah, OK. From now on SCS will never issue "codes" so you and many others can make illegal copies and sell them.

      That will have to stop. Either you activate ETS2 on Steam, or you cannot play.

      No more piracy.

      Either you follow the new policies ( Steam activation ) or you cannot play ETS2

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  56. I am a user of Steam and I hate Steam

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  57. Pleace!!!! Let there ALWAYS be the CHOICE of downloading updates...
    PLEACE!!! not steam only....
    Like to control things on my pc ..and not logging in every thime I start the game..
    (as modder about 100 times a day)

    SCS; Thanks in advance

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  59. Visit my personal blog and download the best modifications to your game!

    http://www.eurotruck2.com.br/

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  60. Please release DLC High Power Cargo Pack free for everyone! It's too enough for sell!

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  61. It's 80% on steam becuse multiplayer :)

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  63. scs i have disk version i didn't know nothing about your games back then the way i find out was because i saw 18 wos hauling game on the mal in rino nevada back in 2001 i didn't use the internet if you get your games of the stores you are going to lose a lot of people who love your games and a lot of people didn't have internet that's the Reason same people prefer of the disk version scs you will lose a lot of costumers i hope you read this message ore sam body let you know scs

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  64. Nice! I just got a Steam Wallet card code for FREE! :D http://linkbitty.com/steamwalletcodes

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  65. I know it's not related but please can you add distance to road signs, for example on a sign:
    ^
    Manchester 10
    Birmingham 90
    >
    Liverpool 25

    Thanks. It would also be great if you added northern Wales and northwestern Scotland as the area around Loch Ness and Loch Linnhe is stunning and I know your up for it graphically. Next DLC has got to France, Italy, Spain and Portugal though. Maybe you'll find time to add the rest of the UK and the roadsign thingy. A lot to ask I know, but it would make the game perfect for me. Thanks

    Matt, Manchester

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  67. NO Steam version = pirate version.

    You DO NOT have to buy the game from Steam. Buy it directly from SCS but you need to activate it on Steam in order to play it.

    Those who are against play ETS2 on Steam, are people who are using pirate versions.

    None force you to buy the game on Steam, but if you want to play it then activate it on Steam. That would put an end to piracy.

    SCS should protect their interest, and they do correct by required Steam activation .

    No more free games for the pirates. Either you activate ETS2 on Steam regardless if you bought it directly from SCS, or you cannot play it. We have to put an end to the pirates and SCS will protect their interests by required Steam activation.

    End of story.

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    1. And if Steam shuts down, then what? You no longer have your game - it's not like iTunes, where you're not obligated to listen to your music in the program.

      It's a nice idea, but if you don't have your game on Steam-only, then you can continue to use it even if Steam shuts down.

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  69. I agree if steam should ever go away so does your game. At least with a dvd you have your game forever. They are starting to do this with all games they own your game you don't.

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  70. All you are doing now days is renting your game. Steam owns your game you don't. If steam should ever go away so does your game. Do you want to spend your money on a game you don't own? or have a dvd that will last forever.

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  71. Steam has screwed me out of so many games and gotten away with it I NEVER use them. I have been a faithful purchaser and updater of all SCS software products. You will be loosing a loyal customer if you go with steam only. Long live NON STEAM products!!! I have over 512 thousand KMs in ETS2 and look forward to purchasing the 1.7.x update when it's ready. Provided...... It's a non steam version...

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  72. http://store.steampowered.com/app/304212/

    Scandinavia DLC on Steam

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  73. I understand your point of view but the developers can't satisfy everybody. They've allways listened to the comunity but sometimes they can't please all of them.

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  75. I've lost my ETS 2 offical product key. how to find or get my product key. can you help me. I have bought my software from Ets 2 offical website.

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  76. All you are doing now days is renting your game. Steam owns your game you don't. If steam should ever go away so does your game. Do you want to spend your money on a game you don't own? or have a dvd that will last forever.

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  77. I was getting ready to buy the game until i found out it was download only. if i buy a game i want it in my hands. not some download and a promise my game will be there in the future.

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  78. Me too if im going to pay for a game i want a disk in my hands not some download and a promise from steam that my game will always be there. Go to hell SCS!!! don't wanna play your games no more. Yes punn intended.

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  79. I forgot to mention the fact that i do believe that this was not a last minute decision on the part of scs i in fact do believe that scs knew they were going to pull this crap a long time ago. But waited to the last minute when everyone had there orders already in. If i had one thing to say to scs it would be don't try to change or fix what has never been broken. Just because all the other gaming companies are doing this doesn't mean you have too.

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  80. You may not lose very many customers scs but i guarantee you won't gain very many either. In my opinion people should always have that choice between disk or download. Taking the choice away from your customers will only hurt your company in the long run.

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  81. Not to worry as soon as they see sales decline scs will change there tune.

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  82. How does this sound scs i will pirate your game and play it for free until you decide to produce a disk at which time i will buy it from you because i would really rather buy it than steal it from you. Do you see my point? you are never going to stop people from pirating your games by going download only or trying to just save a buck. People who are honest will always buy your games.

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  83. Any game i have pirated in the past and played for free were treated as demos. I have always payed for every single game in my collection because i simply wanted the disk. I am not a thief i was just trying to make a point that any game can be cracked no matter what you do.

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  85. Don't expect ats to be on disk either.

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