Friday, January 14, 2011

Iteration during truck model design

We have another look behind the scenes for you today - images of work in progress, and also an example of the kind of feedback that the lead artist repeatedly provides back to the 3D designer building the model.

You will notice that we are trying to pay attention to characteristic visual features, but inevitably, we do have to make compromises. We cannot afford to throw hundreds of thousands triangles at the model, we need to make sure it renders at reasonable framerate in the game even on lower spec computers. We are always hungry for high quality reference material, this is another hurdle for us. Obtaining technical blueprints or at least decently scaled schematic images of the original vehicles is quite rare. All the mod makers could confirm how tough it may be working just from photos.

This model of course should or perhaps we had better write _may_ end up in Euro Truck Simulator 2 eventually. We need to formulate our statements safely - so that there is less potential for disappointment when the game finally ships. All the images from development that you see here on our blog are still subject to final approvals, and please don't take it for granted that any of the stuff is guaranteed to appear in the game. Especially with trucks, this is highly sensitive topic. Just as with our previous games, there may be material that we had spent weeks and months working on which may end up being cut from the final version of the game to keep us in safe legal zone. We need to respect that the truck manufacturers have multi-billion business, their brands are a huge part of the value, and they protect their brand and public image fiercely. We are trying hard, but there may be cases where the walls erected around the brands may be too thick to penetrate.


(click the images to get the full size view)

90 comments:

  1. beautiful scs I love you :-))))

    Sorry my english

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  2. VERY GOOD WORK SCS! You are on the right way!!! I can dance on the table, because i know that scs is the best! The Premium looks very realistic and good! I think everyday about ETS2... thanks for all the fantastic and professional work! and of course thanks for the new informations! nice weekend

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  3. Very good. Thank´s for the amazing Picture and informations.

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  4. i´m so lucky about the premium.wonderful work scs.
    i love you,too!! :))

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  5. Hi SCS, First of all, I want to congratulate you for the hard work that you are performing.

    I think should have more realistic changes in ETS2, and one of this changes I will like that would be the cabin suspenssion in the trucks.

    Thanks you a lot. We are impatient for news everyday.

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  6. Wow well done! In my opinion it is very nice. That shows us that you are really good SCS!

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  7. Good job SCS! It's brilliant!
    And please, in your next update show us the MAGNUM dashboard/interior please! :]


    Se7en

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  8. hello scs.you did a good job! i love it.carry on the good work! :)

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  9. Thats what the fans are waiting for. Very good Truck. Thanks and congratulations SCS!

    I hope we see more in the future... =)

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  10. Cabin suspension - I think we should make a YouTube clip showing it soon ;-). But the artists will always complain that this or that little detail is not final, and not to show things prematurely before they are really final, as fans will complain of imperfections. So it may take a while.
    You cannot imagine how hard it was to persuade them to allow posting the three images from this blog post!

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  11. wow,thats nice,keep p the good work :D

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  12. i´m delighted and proud about you scs. we thank you for the hard work. that remains to be seen when the release would be come this year but i cant wait any longer! now i want to play ets2 and be soo lucky about it! :)))

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  13. @SCS: LOL Stubborn artists!
    Well I think it's about time to show a video of ETS2, both with FH16 or R440, those are one of most complete trucks! ;-)


    Se7en

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  14. YYYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! SCS I LOVE YOU! :D

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  15. scs,do you tell us something about the new map of ets2 or is it secret?

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  16. cool! can you put images from anim edition?

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  17. Hey SCS is there any pictures available for the MAN trucks realy like to see my favorite truck :D

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  18. my friend told me about this blog, now i´m watching every day this page.thanks scs for this cool infos and work.

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  19. Hey scs! the premium looks great! there´s a lot of details, behind the spoilers and co. i like it very much.

    About the map? Can you show something about the map and towns?

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  20. Hey SCS guys!

    It's nice job, but really when will be something info about the new map? Something feature list about the game?

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  21. yes, that would be nice. overview of ets2 map :D

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  22. WOW! It is a really impressive work you are doing on these tractors. First I have to congratulate SCS, because I didnt notice any imperfection without a zooming; then those imperfections are just so little (except the alignment of front wheel and cabin shape in this region) that anyone shouldn't bother you! I think the time correcting little things like de curvature in sunshield that merges in its end should be applied to improve some things in gameplaying and so.

    I'm glad trucks will have a cabin suspensions, it'll be awesome! A feature like Kickdown would be very apreciated also ;)

    Greetings from Brazil, SCS has donea big good work so far!

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  23. this truck model looks very professional.
    i like to see the good work you do scs and i like to see more of the models and the map,too. i think many ets2 fans are waiting for map details.
    so far you did a good job, but please show more pictures from map >>> routes and highways.

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  24. Stunningly beautiful images, as always.
    Keep up the outstanding work SCS software team.

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  26. Wow! You're great! :)
    The Premium is already looking amazing! (And it will still look great even if there - for known reasons - isn't any manufactor-logo! :) Not only the Premium, but all trucks will! ;))

    And your blogs are really a great thing. It helps understanding your problems...

    And it's great to see you answering some questions/clearifing something in the comments-section!

    Keep it on! :)

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  27. Little suggestion: IF possible have different dealerships for the manufacturers i.e. MAN would have their own building, Renault would have their own building etc.... just think it would be a great improvement.

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  28. It's just beautifully made as truck congratulations for your exceptional work go on like this

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  29. I hope Renault will approve Premium in ETS2. I don't like look of Magnum too much, but Renault is fine and Premium is very nice truck. So - best wishes in negotiations with Renault! I believe when they will see this model, they will be excited!

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  30. Very good work SCS soft, very gooog and very nice...
    I am very happy

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  31. Beautiful truck, just wish we could get the real one in America

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  32. I've got one suggestion. I'm sorry, it hasn't to do with this special news, but it just came across my mind:
    It would be great that, if it rains, there were raindrops on all windows, not only on the windshield... :) It adds just a little more atmosphere to the game... ;)

    (Sure it would be nice if the whole looks of the raindrops gets better (like it is in "Rig'n'Roll" - actually, the raindrop effect on the windows is pretty much the only good thing in that game...) - but I guess that's pretty hardware-intensive...)

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  33. Ok, now all the hardcore truck design freaks got their fix... Then maybe it's now time to reveal some info on the world these trucks apears in for the rest of us, if that's not a SCS secret?

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  34. I am looking more and more excited with all the hard work your team are putting into this new series and showing us the progress of the hard worked efforts and trying to incorporate the ideas from everyday fans of game. I keep looking at this blog for updates thankyou SCS

    Grizzly

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  35. Very, very, very nice. I really don't like Renault trucks, but this one is perfect. Good work, now a few more different loads, and i'm very happy.

    Thank you!

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  36. i have the same opinion.but i want to know soemthing about the new ets2 world (map).i hope that scs show´s us in the next time a lot about the map.

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  37. would be come map news next time? greetz

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  38. SCS? How far you are with the map? The Premium is fantastic, very nice. But there´s only one thing. MAP ;D

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  39. new motorways in the map of ets2? across the whole map of europe?

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  40. Premium is good! Thats i like.

    Im lookín for updates.

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  41. i see you make every imaginable effort to create very good trucks with details that everbody can say, wow very good SCS!!!
    Thanks for this work.

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  42. Please SCS put multiple pivot points in the game so we can the modders can make LHV's and B-doubles

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  43. please give us a view over the map scs,please

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  44. first of all very nice progress on modeling :)

    but okay models are models this is the smallest problem in that game...there is many models that can be used as mods....but now comes real question:
    WHAT about game engine? do you make progress on dynamic shadows and new physics system?
    cuz this hardcode game things really needs to be done for better selling and playing this game ;)

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  45. Are Slovak and Czech republics in ETS 2, too?

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  46. tell us information about map

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  47. scs, do you know the international stickers for cars and trucks? PL CZ D NL F GB etc. Can you put them into the game that everybody who wants can stick them on his truck?? Thats a good idea in my eyes. :)

    And what about map-news?

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  48. Hello SCS software team, it's very good that you do not use thousands of polygons to build the models. This guarantees a simulator, one can also play on a normal PC. Other parts can the community build itself off as permitted by their computers. That you are no guarantee on the material presented in this blog give, I am also very good. Thus, the community is not being disappointed. I think that there will be a great game. The Renault Premium looks great!
    Best REGAD
    Thomas Holtgräwe (cowboy)

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  49. The stickers are cool :)

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  50. Hello SCS is it possible too make this game online?

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  51. Ok... very nice jobs!! i'm so impressed how hard this work's been to you. I can hardly wait for ETS II release. Well, i still have my hopes... hopes to see tractors (4x2, 6x2, 6x4, 8x4) but as standard trucks. Yeah!! Very gooooood job, again!! However, as mentioned above... i wanna see MAPS!! lots of roads, cities, etc... so many vehicles that can create traffic jam... please, take into consideration to create official tutorial ( from SCS ) on how to add our own mods into the game... on how to expand maps, cities... and why not... how to create new cities, companies... etc... tutorials teachin' how to give to the game our way...
    Please... don't delay to release ETS II.

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  52. my wish is that the player will be able to stick his own international stickers on his truck like B GB F A CH D I PL and more... and light bulbs for all trucks like orange warning lights and tuning. and what about map and more??

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  53. please scs show map-view.all coountries and roads how the player can drive! thx

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  54. nice nice truck models!!!!!!!! very good, i hope that the map will be professional,too!! :)

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  55. i hope so, that we can see something from the maps. I´m looking for updates on the blog here. Please SCS.Show us ETS2 Map.

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  56. Can you tell us, if its not a secret whats with the license plate and map?? what about the vegetation and woods?

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  57. GOOD PREMIUM. YOUR WORK IS 100%. YOU ARE VERY GOOD SCS! I THINK VERY POSITIVE ABOUT YOU! I HOPE THERE WILL BE COME SOME IMAGES ABOUT THE MAP!

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  58. jako vždy excelentní ! .. nemůžu se dočkat :-) .. už jenom doufám , že Xzone bude pěkně prodávat krabicovou verzi , protože ETS2 musím mít :))

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  59. Smokestack LightninJanuary 16, 2011 at 10:16 PM

    I was wondering how the licencing negotiations work. I get what you guys said about the companies wanting to protect their brand and this might be naive of me to say but isnt your game effectively free advertising for them ? shouldnt they be paying you to add their brands to the game ?

    And during these negotiations do they ask about how their trucks will compare spec wise with competitors ? Going by the specs alone in ETS the 'Majestic' trucks ranked flat bottom. Is it stuff like this they are concerned about ?

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  60. Yes, it would be interesting article. I heard when developer (not only SCS) make game in GTA style, car manufacturers are terrified of crime and drugs and everything, and when developer make peaceful simulator, manufacturers says they're not interested, because game like that must be boring. :-D But it could be rumour, at least partly - so if it's not secret, I'd like to read about these things too.

    And also, if it's not secret - people here are right, some info about ETS2 map would be very nice!

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  61. The best trucking game!Well done!Perfect!!I wish such details to have and the enviromental of the game!

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  62. love the new renault's they look amazing cant wait 2 play the game its not possible 2 do 6x2 1s is it

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  63. cool premium.map of ETS 2 ??

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  64. yeah ;) full size view map...

    >ETS2 FOREVER!<

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  65. Guys, please be patient! This game is still in development. Many things have certainly not yet complete. SCS certainly show screens from the map when they deem appropriate.

    Good work SCS!

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  66. This game will be better than GTA IV

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  67. Looking good, Bias maybe but I am especially looking forward to seeing the Scania's, maybe we could have a list of trucks planned, I'd also like to see 4x2, 6x2, 6x4 etc but that means remodelling parts of the truck which could take a long time and especially for a small company like SCS.

    I along with many others also hope to see improved default trailers along with company's yards/depots being different including the one's that the player can purchase.

    Also the ability to create a livery for your fleet in game would be great just like the paint editor.

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  68. Ok... i like the suggestions... Yeah!! i don't wanna hurry you up, SCS team! But i think... the new ETS II must be released when it's ready... I hope that there's an enormous, tremendous and awesome revolution in the game. I'd like to see many cities, countries and roads, a kind of mixture between 18 wos series and the 1st ETS. It would be nice if in the truck dealer, we could see a kind of data sheet with some details about the truck. A big variety of trailers, including double-trailers, trailers for heavy, dangerous, fragile load. Different types of drivers'licence. Possibilities of buyin' accessories for the truck... for example... special tyres for rain, GPS, special paint, etc... Different level of rain... startin' from a light rain through a very intense one. Cities with many exits, making important sometimes the use of a GPS. Random accidents along the roads. And also, police along the road "applyin'" fines to those drivers who exceed spped limit, for instance. Don't forget tutorials, and why not... a central screen where we can enable/disable these configurations.
    SCS TEAM!! you're makin' a great job!! I'm sure when the game is released... will be fantastic!!
    CONGRATULATIONS!!

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  69. I realize I am too ignorant on the subject, but your 3D models are amazing and so accurate a job like yours can not ruin the image of a brand, not at all, so why all this reluctance to grant a license?

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  70. Congratulations!
    Good working!!

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  71. i like the work,too.ets2 will be one of the best games!

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  72. Oh!! somethin' that i've missed in ETS... that we see in some of the 18 wos... motorcycles... it would be nice if we could see motorcycle in the new ETS II. But ok... everythin' that's possible.
    Great job!! SCS team!!

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  73. Thats an awesome model SCS!!Thanks for keeping us informed as to what is going on behind the scenes(Very few people actually do that)...Count me as one of the confirmed buyers of your game when its out...It would be good if you could include buses as well as bikes in the AI traffic..Eagerly waiting for the game...

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  74. Hello I wanted to ask if you know when you leave the game or the demo of Euro Truck Simulator 2? thanks in advance

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  75. Ok... me again!! I insist on the integration of us, users and custumers, with the game. The possibility of creatin' our own mods and make them make part of the game, as if they were standard of the game. Trailers faithfully like real. But not only trailers... tractors, cars, trucks, buses, etc... I also insist on official tutorials about how to make up new bridges, for example, and add it to the game. Please, when you SCS team... start developin' the map... make up beautiful landscapes... urban, rural and maoutainous landscapes... and please!! i beg you!! hehehe give us that possibility to make ones up... as well.
    Thx!! Keep on workin'... SCS team!!

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  76. when can you show pictures of the map??

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  77. More motorways in poland in the new map?? It would be fantstic to see map imagines next time...

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  78. I think it's good that the lead artist is showing the 3d designer a sample pic to build off. However comments like, "bit smaller & shorter" are vague as.

    Get some concrete in there...5mm smaller & 15mm shorter gives the 3d designer a more precise amount to work with.

    Artist: bit smaller & shorter
    Designer: ***makes smaller & shorter***
    Artist: no, just a bit bigger & longer now.
    So on & so on.

    Poor 3d designer, no wonder they have a headache at the end off the day.


    Keep up the good work...cheer Turtool

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  79. From day to day its more intresting to know how the new map looks like.
    I know thats a lot of work to create a map, but i´m so happy to have a insight into the map.

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  80. "Anonymous said...

    I think it's good that the lead artist is showing the 3d designer a sample pic to build off. However comments like, "bit smaller & shorter" are vague as."


    Haha...Im not stranger to the design myself, so from my xp I must say, that modeller wouldn't be working as modeller without very trained eye for such things. Since lead artist noticed imperfection in particular part and pointed on it, its modeller's part to fix it to perfect state based on provided references.

    Good job SCS! Can't wait for the game myself!

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  81. congratulations! ETS2 will be a fantastic game, and a good truck simulation game has a wide variety of vehicles

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  82. Hello SCS team!! hum... i was thinkin' with myself at work... it would be nice... if... i've been playin' 18 wos - pedal to the medal - and i notice somethin' i think great! On this game, for example... you deliver a cargo and imediately you receive the next cargo to be delivered. But sometimes you gotta go to another city, another company to take it. A point to be thought! Another point - i read anythin' related to cabin suspention... i think that's another point - trailer suspension. Squeaks of loaded trailers, tyres lightly compressed bcos of weight. I also read somethin' mentioned bicycles on the game... i'd add more... pestrians on the sidewalks. As i've already said before... different level of rain... startin' from a light rain goin' through a big storm. Users' freedom to make inclusion of new trucks, trailers, cities, countries, companies, etc. Freedom to interact with the game. Don't forget the
    double-trailers. I hope that we can see pics of maps soon. Sorry for any english mistake.

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  83. Me again... two other things that i noticed - traffic sign boards should be improved for the next version of ETS 2! I mean... in general... every kind of traffic sign board. And i don't know how it works, but i think some traffic sign boards, for example... could give us the possibility of includin' some text - like city names... directions, etc. Not to forget the speed limits as well. Moreover... to give more realism to the game... i don't know... you SCS team should develop some system in the game... to control all the vehicles which make part of the traffic... to give them random destinations. Example - a car leaves berlin to Munich... but it must be random... and with all the other vehicles. Trucks, buses, cars, everythin'.
    I'm dyin to play the new ETS 2, soory for bein' insistent in some things - in my mind, you created this blog to collect ideas and opinions from us... players.
    Thx... keep on the great job!!

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  84. Hey SCS...

    In EuroTruckSimulator.org, there's a topic opened about "What would you like to see in ETS2?"

    I invite you to take a look, because there are a lot of useful, nice suggestions. Here's the link:
    http://www.eurotrucksimulator.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=123
    I really recomend you to visit the 4 lasts pages, because there aree more than 90 posts there...

    Thanks for the attention, TGXtrucker.

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  85. hello scs, please show more about ets2.

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  86. CZ:SCS jsem váš velký fanoušek a věřím že fanoušků toho typu žánru bude jen a jen přibývat. Je skvělé že vytváříte ETS 2,bude to určitě velký trhák. Hraju vaše kamionové hry skoro od začátku a každá nová hra přinesla spoustu vymožeností a překvapení .Ale chtěl bych podotknout u ETS,GTS,ATS kamionovou třídu A. nejsilnější kamion (jezdí jak osobák a to i když mám zapřáhnutý návěs) , přijde mi to nereálné a myslím si že to trochu kazí hru .Je to simulace a toho by se mělo trochu držet. Jinak dost kritiky ( vím že mužem být rádi že nějaká kamionová simulace vůbec je ),je to jen takový malí detail. Stejně před vaším celím týmem klobouk dolů, udělali jste veliký pokrok. Ceníme si vás a chtěl bych popřát ať se daří, máte hodně úspěchů…..jen tak dál 

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  87. Can we see the magnum please exterior and interior

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