Monday, April 18, 2011

Truck physics

We wanted to show you more than static pictures for a change today, but recording, encoding and uploading the video has taken quite a while.

Here is a look behind the scenes, into the developer's kitchen - our test bed map for vehicle physics development.


This is our testing grounds used by the programmers for constant physics tweaking, you won't find it in the final game.

No need to comment again on missing wipers or mirrors, we know about it, it's a known limitation of the test setup. The user interface code and loader code for truck parts setup is still not accessible in this branch of the development codebase.

97 comments:

  1. Thank you very much SCS , it was a long time we were waiting for a short movie...;-)

    Congratulation for your work

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  2. I can see that the shifting is still like in a formula 1 car. Guy please do proper manual shifting.

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  3. Greetings from USA! Your blog is really cool.
    Are you living in Czech Republic?
    You are welcomed to visit me at:
    http://blog.sina.com.cn/usstamps
    Thanks!

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  4. Its Look So Cool! (:

    Very Nice Work SCS (: LOVE YA!

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  5. wow looks great, the front axle jumps a little too much I think

    Any chances to see deformable tires as well? it would be a nice touch

    Nevertheless great job on implementing new functions into the game and updating the blog :p

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  7. Really awesome SCS! The only negativ in this movie was the shifting, but I gooe that you fix that :)

    Keep up the Good work SCS!

    Please show Us Volvos inside and outside :)
    Crippa from Sweden

    Sorry for my bad english, I used google translate

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  8. Appreciate the video SCS. Looks very nice and really realistic.

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  9. excellent looking good the gab between truck and trailer is smaller wow.Congratulation

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  10. Great! Show us DAF and renault trucks!

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  11. scs muitos estao esperando euro truck 2 o brasil tambem voce tem muitos fans aqui muito bom scs.

    many are waiting scs euro truck 2 Brazil also you have many fans here scs very good.

    sorry if english is bad

    youtube canal: http://www.youtube.com/user/caminhoneironohaulin

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  12. Nice progress SCS team!
    Cool to see the truck bumps. I'd suggest you to make a dynamic fuel consumption, not just 1,2 km/l and 2 unloaded, making it spend much more if the driver sticks the gears to 2500rpm the whole time.

    Thanks for posting so often!
    Make my days even better ;D
    Cant wait for the release!

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  13. very nice!just change the fast shifting when we brake and we shift down :)

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  14. Very nice! Thanks for a video instead of a picture. The truck looks amazing and the physics are also very realistic.

    Thanks SCS

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  15. EXCELLENT! RELEASE DATE?

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  16. looks very very very gooooood!!!

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  17. compliments, really a good work!!
    PS: i see motion blur, i love this effect!

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  18. awesome! but please add a good manual shifting option, in addition to the automatic transmission

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  19. The video is brilliant! O.o

    But, please, more realistic transmission, and:
    the truck jumps like it has very few kilos! I certainly doesn't give the truck a feeling that it is heavy and big! ;-)

    Add some more weight to the truck.


    Se7en

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  20. That is some mighty fine work you're doing, SCS. Keep it up!

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  21. the suspensions are amazing. this game will be awesome. i can't wait to appear. SCS Software crew are great. keep up with this great work.

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  22. Bon travail encore une fois.

    Merci
    Bonne continuation.
    Titou.

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  23. really much better than oldgames but fix some more too much bumping XS

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  24. Fantastic video. Can't wait till release.

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  25. Very realistic suspension, great work.
    Keep the shifting the way it is, because I like it.

    I see you've mastered the breaking, just make sure the steering and engine sounds are very good.

    I am so anxious to buy this game!!!!!!!!

    Can you guys put these physics in Trucks and Trailers?

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  26. ETS2 will have any replay option? I would love to view all my trips with the external camera...

    I love ETS and GTS but i miss the replay option to be honest...

    Anyway, it seems SCS is doing a great work in this one. In my opinion ETS or GTS are the "Gran Turismo" of Truck Games. :)

    Thank YOU!!

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  27. the cabine should shake more

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  28. SCS,

    It looks awesome. Great job. However, I do have to say it appears that the truck takes off a little bit too fast. Can you improve the shifting please.

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  29. The truck is not too fast.

    Can you guys make an R730 version of this, for example as the A Class truck.

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  30. 1. After braking cabin too slowly takes its original position (15 sec. Video).
    2. When crossing obstacles no deformation of tires (42 sec. Video).
    3. When crossing the barriers of the wheels is too small weight (43 sec. Video).
    4. Articulated behaves as if there is no shock at all, except under the cab.

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  31. A good example of cabin shaking with full braking:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOBmpGYYCc

    Best Regards!

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  32. Please, make the marks of wheels on the asphalt, the sound of rubber and other effects during when the wheels slip, skid or drift

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  33. Wow SCS Soft, could you add that in the game, that is, to put it in some place on the map, to be there to carry out various experiments, or even competitions? It would be interesting.
    with regard to physics - it all seems to me it was earlier in the GTS
    you better show the behavior of the truck at high speeds, especially when turning ...
    inhibition here looks like the car, probably as it should be?

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  34. oh that is good but where are the potholes roads are not smooth. make bad roads .

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  35. All these obsessively repeated comments are beginning to get to your nerves... Don't mind them, please! The world is full of weirdos, but you shouldn't let them piss you off. All these people posting comments here are just a fraction of the mass of gamers interested in your work.
    Nice video!
    The vehicles seem to obey real world physics quite accurate. But it seems that the truck is a bit lighter that a real one. The chassis' vertical acceleration is slightly faster than normal. Maybe you can make it heavier, so the wheel movements transmit slower to the chassis. Although, this could be related to the video play-speed.
    About this "playground" that you have for testing your equations, you could provide one for the player, when buying a new truck, to do some test runs at the dealer, check acceleration and handling, even if he/she doesn't have the money to buy it. It would be nice to have a speed track where we could go, once in a while, to break from the delivery routine. Maybe even a contest circuit... but that's a new game all together! :D
    Anyway, I really love what you're doing. I bet is fantastic to see all those mechanical laws you learn in school (acceleration, inertia, drop speed, centrifugal forces etc.) applied to simulated objects!

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  36. Good morning i saw this video here on http://tinyurl.com/43p4j4n
    It looks great. Good work guys.

    Greetings
    Funboy

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  37. It looks great. Good work
    EXCELLENT! RELEASE DATE?

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  38. Well, you still have to work on truck physics. I want to ask you to add new truck sounds too. Try to make something like in this video [http://www.flickr.com/photos/7295020@N06/5605883228/in/photostream]. Please focus on every sound detail. Also I have a piece of advice for your map creators. Try to see things from the cab because there are many details that you make and the driver inside the cab can't notice them. Create a very busy environment with trucks, rest areas and things from real life wherewith a driver interacts with.

    Regards, Danyiel

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  39. yep like some already said you still have to change that gearbox :) Shifting is totally unreal and to fast...

    About suspension i see only good things! :)

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  40. I thought you might be asking "Where is this road"..... we i can tell you...... just outside my house.

    How about some info on the Drivers Life, can he buy his own trailers and store them, can he see his Trucks and Trailers pass him on the roads, can he choose contracts for his drivers.

    Keep up the good work SCS

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  41. That looks really good SCS.
    I just wondered whether you could make an option for people to use steering wheels with 920 degrees, and gear boxes, whether sequential or otherwise.
    I love the grpahics and the new ideas, ie) parking in different areas, pedestrians, border crossings and train crossings etc.
    I would love to see the game, where at the end of the week, maybe on the Saturday, you have to park up at your depot and pick up a car and drive to your house to stay. And then on the Monday morning drive back and get truckin' again.
    Also, it would be good if you could deliver fuel tankers to some of the petrol stations as well as other cities, as they obviously need fuel too. :)
    When you said you can personalise the cabs, does that mean that we can create a company logo and put it on our cabsa dn that of the others.
    Also, i would like to be able to pass other workers on the way around, with maybe a mini map of where they are heading and what they are delivering. MULTIPLAYER would be better though!!

    I know you have a lot of work and it all looks great, but to make the game the best it can be, you seriously need to consider some of these suggestions and that of the other members.

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  42. The video looks great so far! I see some improvements but alot of ppl point out the gearbox, and i agree with them! The gearbox is just unreal, and the acceleration of the truck aswell. No truck can do that with 24 tons behind its back. So please focus abit on that aswell not just the cab movement, which is great imho only at the 15 second when the cab returns to its neutral position after the hard braking is just abit to much. Feels like a slow motion lol. I am glad tho to see that there is no more drifting with the truck which was utterly retarded in your previous games. Physics and the feeling of real life is the most important thing in my oppinion, so please dont rush trough that section!

    Thanks for the video!

    Greeting from Croatia, Ivan!

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  43. The Renault Magnum has another suspension than all other trucks in Europe .. So the cabine goes harder and much more up and down. Is this in the game too?!
    If so can you please show us something about that?!

    And why we only see pics & vids of the Scania?! :)

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  44. To all of you asking for gear changing tweaks, don't forget that the game is played at a much higher rate than real life!
    Try setting warp parameter accordingly and gear changes may operate closer to real gearboxes.

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  45. Very big physics improvements! Very good!
    Could you maybe include a test track in ETS2, like a tutorial, before you can drive in the "real world" for a company? It would be great! Love the aircab suspension!
    SCS Software ROCKS! Good luck with ETS2!

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  46. Really loved the video.Awesome work.
    Just a suggestion,include such speed breakers and road undulations on the roads in ETS2.Would really help in increasing the reality quotient.

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  47. Looks very realistic, great job!

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  48. Love the physics but hate the accelaration and probably the sound of the trucks too.


    You fixed physics clearly now SCS, but pls dont forget the sound and reduce torque of the trucks so they dont behave like freaking F1 cars who get 100km/h in 1.5 sec. Make trucks feel heave and slow to accelerate.

    Anyway nice to keep us updated and love the way the tires and the spacecab jumps !

    Keep us updates ;-)

    Cheers

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  49. Looks very nice Scs team

    Renault Magnum And Premium screen Please...

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  50. Big improvement in pyhsics! Yes, it would be nice to see other examples, like turning at high speed, but still, nice video. ;-) Thanks!

    For dissatisfied readers: I understand you, but on the other hand, keep on mind that SCS's titles are above all games, not simulators, played by wide range of people. In fact, only minor part of SCS's customers would be able to play with realistic simulator. This minor part, obviously, is the most loud part - but still minor. There must be a line set which tells "ok, we can improve this, but we cannot make so realistic that."

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  51. Truck sounds and reduce in torque can be done my moders so why not by a gaming studio who gets money for their products ?

    It's not that hard to fix and it adds a huge ammount of satisfaction to the game

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  52. Wow hope there are so many ETS2 Mods possible too, like at this page http://trucksimulator24.de/index.php?page=Board&boardID=9

    Go on SCS Team !!! Before christmas i want to buy your game ;)
    cya

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  53. About sound: I always felt like I'm driving with my windows down. The AI vehicles are too loud. In a modern, sound proof cabin you don't usually hear them when they pass by.

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  54. Yess! Better brakes thank you very much SCS team !
    Now you should edit the transmission a little bit :)

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  55. Nice job on the physics.

    Please make a curtain side trailer like this one -> http://www.cargobull.lt/pics/melynas%20tentas.jpg

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  56. Nice job , now physics finally becomes looking good. SCS is better now. Correct the manual gearing and that's it for me. I'd see in game many of models to do maps. Focus on that couse many players can prove your mistakes and maybe they'll send to the server their maps. Think about it couse you won't do whole map and players will have a fun on doing more parts to map.

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  57. Multiplayer Mod In Ets2 PLEASE PLEASE

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  58. Gameplay Video with Sound,Pedestrians etc.Please

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  59. MULTIPLAYER OPTION ETS2 PLEASE

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  60. This is great news!
    u guys listen to the people.
    keep it up!

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  61. Good psysics scs!
    The truck moves as in real!

    Great job!

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  62. the best truck simulator in history finally overcame the problem of grip is amazing what they have accomplished congratulatory comments about the solution I think speed is given several options that torque me if I like to ride fast hehe

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  63. Wonderful !
    I can't wait :D

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  64. Hi scs good work i like it, but please change gear shifting like in Austrian Truck Simulator gear changes in 1500 RPM

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  65. ohhhh finely something about our complain of you truck games, hope we wont have this physics, we hope SCS that you guys work hard in this part of the game that is the must important thing in the development of any simulator.

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    This is an excellent driving physics! We can see an immense step forward between ETS1 and ETS2. It's like comparing two completely various classes... Toll gate on French road is very very nice. Machinery also. But bridge over the French "l'autoroute" A4 is just wonderful! Due to the driving physics I'll play in your game day and night, day and night, day and night... And so over and over again... This gives a giant plus for you and your game, SCS :)

    Greetings from Poland, Mr. Ferrari.



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    To jest doskonała fizyka jazdy! Widzimy przeogromny krok pomiędzy ETS1 a ETS2. To jak porównywanie dwóch zupełnie innych klas... Punkt poboru opłat na francuskiej drodze jest bardzo, bardzo ładny. Maszyny również. Ale most nad francuską "l'autorute" A4 jest po prostu cudowny! Dzieki tej fizyce jazdy będę grał w Wasze gry dzień i noc, dzień i noc, dzień i noc... I tak w kółko... To daje ogromny plus dla Was i dla Waszych gier, SCS :)

    Pozdrowienia z Polski, Mr. Ferrari.

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  67. SCS team of congratulation!
    Do not listen to unhappy people.
    You walk a very long way. Enormous progress compared to the old games.
    Thank you!

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  68. Looking good so far, great progress since your last video.
    Good luck and succes with coding the truckparts section

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  69. now is progress, because after PTTM the physics was just decreasing.
    I bought all trucks games made by SCS, so i could complain. Customer always have the rights. And its good for the fans to put pressure on SCS, to help they work harder doing a true simulator.

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  70. in my opinion you need to put more weight on the truck,trailer. . . . is to "jumpy" or make the tires to "deflate" when hit an obstacle.
    Add a little more rebound on cabin shocks.

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  71. i found a hint

    on the back of the trailer there is a sing it say's T.I.R. you only see it on a trailer when you haul it from europe to somewhere out of europe

    :P:P:P more country's :P:P:P

    peace from holland

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  72. "Do not listen to unhappy people." Oh, yes, SCS should listen to from time to time the same - mindless "magically", "Fairy Tale", "Wonderful," "Fascinating," "I can not wait" and "When the release?", And even spammers "MULTIPLAYER! ! 111,111? Yes?
    Where, where in physics was "remarkable"? The cabin is now swinging - and everything? Great progress has, in fact .. .
    Truck weight - plastic, and the wheels had wooden - now that's what "physics".
    The behavior of the truck, "Physics", should be as similar to the real. Perhaps it is time to completely change the physics engine?
    "Enormous progress compared to the old games." Oh no it yet, progress. In general (except graphics) to return what has already happened. And we must not compare with the old games, SCS, but with modern autoplay.

    SCS focuses on the grafics - but in vain. Simply because after buying the truck class "A" to play it makes no sense.
    Gameplay should be further developed in the first place, to diversify the game in different situations.
    Even enter the "difficulty levels" in order to leave for higher salaries casual gamers ..
    Need a realistic rainfall, and not only on the windshield. And finally, we need a normal sound - it is now simply "no." Dry, inexpressive and monotonous .. .
    I also respect the work of SCS. And the waiting game. But after the game too late to be "spitting". Again, many will be thoughtfully rolled his eyes, "Yes, all the same!", "Vain and hope !"... That this is what you do not want.
    I wish you good luck in the SCS hard work.
    - Sorry for the translator of Google.

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  73. I'm amazed, no doubt. What I really like to see there is the fact that the wheels on the trailers go up independently rather than a single axle bouncing the whole trailer up.

    What really bothers me is the fact that the camera in the cab view has no "laziness". It's too stiff with the cab, maybe simulate intertia having an effect on the driver by making the cab jerk around like in previous games? (ALH for example)

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  74. Can not make the old versions of trucks for example Daf XF95 , daf cf, volvo fm, volvo fh12 ....
    Hugs and a continuation of good work
    Sorry my english, I used google translate

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  75. Looking very good so far.Now all you need to do is sort out the cab camera,I do not bounce around in my cab like that.Sort the gearing out,it is a truck not a mclaren mercedes F1 car.If you have not already done so many I suggest you employ some real truckers as your testers.

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  76. Nice physics. Above, a player mentioned a test drive when you buy a vehicle at a truck dealer. I would like that too. Maybe, you could make it so that the player has up to 10 minutes in real time to test the truck, even if he'she doesn't have enough money. I would like that feature.

    I love the braking, keep it that way. The trucks in previous games have horrible brakes. They are not strong enough.

    Make it so that if a player brakes hard at a high speed, there are tire marks, and skidding sounds. Make it so that if I touch my brake pedal lightly, the truck brakes lightly, and if I touch it hard, it brakes hard. In GTS, that is not the case. The braking is the same no matter how hard you hit the pedal. That is very unrealistic. Don't do that for this game!

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  77. Please make it so that the mirrors on the external view correspond with the internal view.

    In UKTS, with the old Scania model, on the outside, there is an additional mirror on the driver's side, but is absent from the internal view. That is very unrealistic.

    Keep it from becoming that way. I would love to see additional mirrors that actually work in the game, possibly as an accesory available for purchase.

    As for the wipers, make it so that they have three speeds: low, medium, high. Make them work the same way as the headlights. Press the W key once, the wipers are at a low speed, press it again for medium speed, press it again, high speed. Press again, off. Make the rain more realistic too, please. Add some snow in too, and create a realistic effect on the windshield. Make the wiper key relocatable.

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  78. @federico.la.12
    learn better reading! ETS 2 don't will have Multiplayer!! and for all who are asked about Multiplayer too.
    and for all who are asked about pedestrians on ETS 2: ETS 2 will have pedestrians!!! watch better those screenshot's

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  79. Woooooooooooo they solve the oversteer problem. It will be the best european truck simulator ever (I hope).

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  80. Something for cargoes :
    http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/len_rogers/aug2002/batch2/man_radl.jpg

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  81. VERY GOOD!!!!!

    MAKE THE BAR-PERFORMANCE DAMAGE VISUALL!!!!!

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  82. NICE WORK!

    One idea: Do not turn the trailer over the arrow!

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  83. bonjour
    daf xf95 svp..
    http://www.europe-camions.com/photos-annonce-occasion-336080.html
    http://www.europe-camions.com/photos-annonce-occasion-289086.html
    http://img.agriaffaires.com/tractor-unit/83_83750_2942534-2/daf-xf-95-380-sc-manual.jpg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpk-oKkhb1c&feature=related

    pourriez vous mettre les sons de moteur de chaque camion
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqzoHAC55Y
    "daf"

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  84. http://foniek.picturepush.com/album/89620/3648113/Rysunki/DAF-95XF-380-Space-Cab-%2B-WI....html#column2::/album/89620/detail/4504453

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  85. here is something for the truck physics... nice road for a test...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMoDjtFU6s

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  86. Good afternoon, i d like to know if this game will support logitech g27?? with 360º?? and with 3 pedals working?? thank you.
    Rafael,Parana,Brasil

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  87. I hope very soon to come out already this game SCS bravo to you very well you did

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  88. Still shifts like an F1 racer... Really, when are you guys going to add some realism?.. The graphics and exterior physics are nice and all, but they are SECONDARY to proper drivetrain simulation. Look at what a team of two guys managed to do with OMSI: perfect vehicle drivetrain simulation, in version 1.0 of their product.

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  89. I have to say you are doing good job! Just one idea according to physiscs. Maybe a feature of truck wear should be good. I.E after few thousand of kilometers the suspesions will not perform as new as well as other parts of the truck.(changing tyres, oil ,filters etc with consequences when the player ignore it- make a system of service intervals and consequently breakdowns - add more exciting feature to the game)

    Greetings, I am looking forward for the new game, cannot wait!

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  90. Is it very hard to add a clutch system to this game? I have been waiting this system since 18 WOS:AA.

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  91. Not bad at all!
    The one thing missing is lack of gravity and object mass, which makes the truck cabin handle like it had rock hard sport suspension in every joint.

    Still a super improvement, I like!

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  92. Thank you for great review. It was easy to read, but I'd like to add that if your business needs to be updated try mobile software development.

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  93. Could there be a parameter when playing on keyboard, which limits rate of engine acceleration in low gears to make acceleration and manouvering more fluent (i mean how fast the gas pedal may be pushed to floor, eg. real driver doesn`t floor the gas pedal instantly (but with keyboard and mouse I have no choice) in low gers as he would spin the wheels. I think it would improve control of the truck and manual gershifting nnot only when driving solo.
    Another great feature would be an option to have separate button to shift (preselect) split gears like in the real thing and a clutch button of course.
    Best regards and carry on the good work!

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  94. Nice touch, but still it has to be tweaked a little. Good start, but the cab need to move a lot more and have a recoil. Also check the sounds it makes when it brakes. Even if don't watch the movie, only listen to it you can tell it's braking. The air sounds will be a nice touch.
    Like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSQSueFrxzI&feature=related
    or(3:50)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Vj7bzMfZ4

    Thanks for reading.

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